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v23325's avatar

The problem is the word occupied.

Occupied means under control of a hostile army / entity.

Many of the people you are talking about are democratically elected officials.

All people in positions of power can be swayed by financial incentives. If you take issue with that then deal with all ways this type of influence is wielded.

Many different groups and nations influence American politicians and politics, the disproportionate emphasis and derogatory language used to speak about Jews and zionists is why ZOG is a shitty hill to die on.

While you may be willing to take this risk, you are taking a risk on behalf of the Jewish people while also using so much irony that it is hard for the average viewer to discern your intentions.

If you’re sincerely concerned about the ways that outside groups influence American politics it would be nice to see you explore how other countries and groups play a role.

While you may not think it is one United States interest to align with Israel, I think there is a case that can be made that the US benefits from this relationship too and is not “occupied” but rather it is a choice that you do not agree with. But the words matters and I’d argue that there is no occupation.

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mvtt's avatar

I stopped reading when one of your links was a clip of a Tucker Carlson interview. Show me a source that isn't a literal disinformation machine. Thanks.

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Sol's avatar

I mean this isn’t entirely unfair but you coulda heard him out anyway

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Gen X Jeff's avatar

How is a "plan that will allow any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave to do so" ethnic cleansing? I'm missing that part. It sounds voluntary, not forced.

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Xader's avatar

because it would be offered as an alternative to, you know, rebuilding the gaza strip. it’s not really a voluntary choice if your only other option is living in a crater that will remain a crater until you finally leave and the settlers roll in

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Gen X Jeff's avatar

That's not what the tweet says.

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Robnik's avatar

I totally agree that different parties/organisations have influence and lobbyism within any government. My feeling to any lobbyism is two sided, but I do not know why we are focusing so intensively on this movement. I am all open for criticizing any lobbyism that is making the government take the “wrong move” due to influence, but I would argue that the currently most toxic influences are not the one making USA act in Middle East, but rather how hard USA has crippled itself by electing Trump.

My feeling here is leaning to the feeling of Destiny, that Russia is maliciously and stealthily, injecting its influence via hidden proxies (bot accounts and influencers like Tim pool) to cause harm to America itself, and the alliances and dominance it used to have.

I think these are some of the real big issues today, but if you want to investigate this, you should also go all for it. I just don’t know what you want to “expose” when this is more open lobbyism, something that is already “open” (similar to tobacco and gun lobbyism)?

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