The biggest issue is, how do we talk about ZOG, integrate the valid points arround that idea, and avoid becoming the woke or alt right version of actually anti simetic.
I enjoy many content creators and i make it a point to push myself out of my comfort zone, beyond maybe 2 politics / meme wars related content creators i watch, all of them are almost opnely anti simetic to a comicall extent.
Youll have rightoids making esoteric references to jews and hten doing a funny face, and then youll have leftoids talking about Israel like they are ''ethnically cleansing'' underserving and peacefull people. And not defending themselves in from an openly genocidal enemy.
ZOG is a topic that surely has valid points, but man, 90% of the points are bullshit, and both sides feed off of that bullshit. ZOG should be the last topic tackled, it has the least amount of stuff to be gained from it. You pretty much only gain the moral victory of discussing all topics no matter how controversial. Wich is a noble value, and one that should be upheld.
But man, right now is not the moment, focus on tangible issues first. Your focus on ZOG strikes me as what self sabbotaging, win allergic lefties do, were they ignore easy policy wins they can influence and instead focus on the most obscure esoteric edge case were a trans person wasnt treated perfectly, because its morally necessary in acordance to their values.
And its like bitch, sure, but focus on what we all want changed first. ZOG is the new right equivalent of the culture war, its what keeps us distracted from real issues.
Yeaaah…. Interesting idea. I think you’re going to have to go back to square one and really spell out why Zionism bad. Right now it just sounds like a leftist, antisemitic conspiracy theory.
So i'm not necessarily one who's going to sit here and personally say that like Israel doesn't deserve a state or whatever. What is your definition of bad? What is it that is good about the old way of doing things? Does might make right? I could argue Zionism is "bad" because its entire basis is like a righteous justification and will to power to take what they decided was theirs all along and at all costs. They hadn't meaningfully occupied the area for centuries largely since the fall of the second temple and they knew as they went into that they were going to have to get the land out from under the Palestinians and gave themselves the moral authority to go as far as committing deep deceptions and even atrocities in order to carry out the Zionist project.
I think the jewish people got dealt a fucking terrible hand and for much of their collective existence as a diaspora and what societies seemed almost compelled to subject them to repeatedly throughout the middle ages all the way through to the horrors of 19th century Russia. It's really bad what they as a people were subjected to and so i also kind of understand where the project came from.
To this day they are clearly just completely dominating that captive population and what's occurred that has led to any success of the zionist movement has come at the direct expense of the Palestinians. that and their high competency in using established power and authority structures as means to their projects ends.
The strategic and cunning ways and honestly rather brilliant ways zionist were able to use Britain and the power they had prior to 1948 to gain more power and land overtime and under the noses of the much less sophisticated arab populations of 1920-1940 and their ruthlessness and ability to wield the power of counties governments so effectively and to the direct means to their ends is emblematic of the Israeli relationship with the US today.
so yeah idk is that bad? it's certainly not just or the 20th century post WW1 way of doing things. Machiavelli would probably think it was pretty great what they have accomplished.
meanwhile today i just feel like it fucking sucks that my government who takes their cut of what i earn at gunpoint feels the need to continue to give it to Goliath (who really doesn't seem like a democracy to me or an excellent ally to me) so they can continue to beat David, whose handicapped in a wheelchair in comparison, down to a bloody pulp day in and day out.
it's by far the most toxic relationship on the planet earth the US and Israel
I’m beginning to think that since the ZOG stuff is just so unserious and has never been really explained at depth that Paul might be a Zionist who is trying to make anti zionists look fucking cringe. irony huh.
I think that what I have learned from this political era is that the underdog ideology is a champion of truth. And the incombant ideology protects power above truth. 🤔
The biggest issue is, how do we talk about ZOG, integrate the valid points arround that idea, and avoid becoming the woke or alt right version of actually anti simetic.
I enjoy many content creators and i make it a point to push myself out of my comfort zone, beyond maybe 2 politics / meme wars related content creators i watch, all of them are almost opnely anti simetic to a comicall extent.
Youll have rightoids making esoteric references to jews and hten doing a funny face, and then youll have leftoids talking about Israel like they are ''ethnically cleansing'' underserving and peacefull people. And not defending themselves in from an openly genocidal enemy.
ZOG is a topic that surely has valid points, but man, 90% of the points are bullshit, and both sides feed off of that bullshit. ZOG should be the last topic tackled, it has the least amount of stuff to be gained from it. You pretty much only gain the moral victory of discussing all topics no matter how controversial. Wich is a noble value, and one that should be upheld.
But man, right now is not the moment, focus on tangible issues first. Your focus on ZOG strikes me as what self sabbotaging, win allergic lefties do, were they ignore easy policy wins they can influence and instead focus on the most obscure esoteric edge case were a trans person wasnt treated perfectly, because its morally necessary in acordance to their values.
And its like bitch, sure, but focus on what we all want changed first. ZOG is the new right equivalent of the culture war, its what keeps us distracted from real issues.
Yeaaah…. Interesting idea. I think you’re going to have to go back to square one and really spell out why Zionism bad. Right now it just sounds like a leftist, antisemitic conspiracy theory.
So i'm not necessarily one who's going to sit here and personally say that like Israel doesn't deserve a state or whatever. What is your definition of bad? What is it that is good about the old way of doing things? Does might make right? I could argue Zionism is "bad" because its entire basis is like a righteous justification and will to power to take what they decided was theirs all along and at all costs. They hadn't meaningfully occupied the area for centuries largely since the fall of the second temple and they knew as they went into that they were going to have to get the land out from under the Palestinians and gave themselves the moral authority to go as far as committing deep deceptions and even atrocities in order to carry out the Zionist project.
I think the jewish people got dealt a fucking terrible hand and for much of their collective existence as a diaspora and what societies seemed almost compelled to subject them to repeatedly throughout the middle ages all the way through to the horrors of 19th century Russia. It's really bad what they as a people were subjected to and so i also kind of understand where the project came from.
To this day they are clearly just completely dominating that captive population and what's occurred that has led to any success of the zionist movement has come at the direct expense of the Palestinians. that and their high competency in using established power and authority structures as means to their projects ends.
The strategic and cunning ways and honestly rather brilliant ways zionist were able to use Britain and the power they had prior to 1948 to gain more power and land overtime and under the noses of the much less sophisticated arab populations of 1920-1940 and their ruthlessness and ability to wield the power of counties governments so effectively and to the direct means to their ends is emblematic of the Israeli relationship with the US today.
so yeah idk is that bad? it's certainly not just or the 20th century post WW1 way of doing things. Machiavelli would probably think it was pretty great what they have accomplished.
meanwhile today i just feel like it fucking sucks that my government who takes their cut of what i earn at gunpoint feels the need to continue to give it to Goliath (who really doesn't seem like a democracy to me or an excellent ally to me) so they can continue to beat David, whose handicapped in a wheelchair in comparison, down to a bloody pulp day in and day out.
it's by far the most toxic relationship on the planet earth the US and Israel
why is conspiring against truth AND justice bad?
I’m beginning to think that since the ZOG stuff is just so unserious and has never been really explained at depth that Paul might be a Zionist who is trying to make anti zionists look fucking cringe. irony huh.
Interesting!
Just remember to not get too close to the sun.
I think that what I have learned from this political era is that the underdog ideology is a champion of truth. And the incombant ideology protects power above truth. 🤔
I like your ideas, but I expect you memeorology to be about as accurate as my local weather mans meteorology. I hope you prove me wrong though.
You are a Radical centrist too!!!
👀👀👀
i hate jews and im all for this!